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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:37 am    Post subject:

i gave u my opinion for the portuguese in the other thread (how could i help) Wink

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in reaction to Junot's attack of Portugal in 1807, the Portuguese military remodeled into milicias, and ordenanças.
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In 1808 came a re-mobilisation of the portuguese army with the help of England: infantry of the line, light infantry or "caçadores ", the "milícias " and "ordenanças ", cavalry, artillery and corps of engineers

"The ordenanças were used in a current design, recruitment of the military district, which from now on will only be used militarily, in time of war when he asked its members to attend, as individuals, as volunteers in the defense of fortresses, but will never be called to serve - mobilized - as members of ordenanças."
source: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:E_OqxBbc7UAJ:www.arqnet.pt/exercito/orgorde2.html+ordenan%C3%A7as+militar&cd=12&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=ch&source=www.google.ch

Maybe the power/importance of the portuguese milicas should be revisioned ?
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 4:25 pm    Post subject:

I have got idea about russian militia. Do you know, that when Napoleon intruded Russia, he was very surprised of angry attack of Russian kreposnye - simply peasant who had statuus nearly of slave. Napoleon thaught, that he will be seen as hero, who frees them from dictators, but he was greatly disappointed. So maybe russian militia will be armed with pikes/spears/axes/scythes, have a bit smaller HP but maybe stronger attack. Also I think, it should be new workers for Russia and, maybe, Poland. They should cost less, but work worse.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 6:49 pm    Post subject:

Noooo, not Poland.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:05 am    Post subject:

Ok, not Poland, as you wish.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:34 am    Post subject:

Perhaps one civ could have cavalry militia instead. That could be interesting. I don't know which, though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:25 pm    Post subject:

About Poland.
Maybe kosynierzy will be polish militia?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 13, 2011 3:16 pm    Post subject:

Hmmmmm. It was originally supposed to be a partyzant, but I like the look of war scythes. ^^

Also it was used by peasants during a few uprisings, and the Swedish Invasion of the Commonwealth so I suppose it could work nicely.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 4:02 pm    Post subject:

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Swedish militia. I only remember these screens:


Milis


Um... We are going to base Militia off of Napoleon Total War units? In that case, I can take plenty of screenshots if you need them.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:00 pm    Post subject:

Kinda updated.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 7:44 pm    Post subject:

Really good aports! They are really more realistic.

The nwe Milicia have the similar characteristics of a Minuteman, or they are totally different?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:46 pm    Post subject:

Not sure yet, this is future content. Originally I thought to vary "Minutemen" a lil, from a game design aspect the Colo Militia makes more sense though. Gotta see this.

Imagine that both could actually be varied to a certain extent. The Colonial Militia needs to be ranged infantry without any freaky stances. For the Minutemen I'm not saying this has to be ranged, but I guess it'd be better and have very few exceptions.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 7:23 pm    Post subject:

I'm rather surprised you don't have Portugal, I thought you'd be using ordenanças, also, I'd say the cernida would make a good militia for Italy, though this discussion feels kinda Déjà vu...
Also, since you care so much for Colonial Militia I'm right in my belief that you've got big plans for a revolution overhaul?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:44 am    Post subject:

I just wrote about ordenencas if u read the top of the page^^
I think its better if you could upgrade them in the Towncenter and have then this special names for every single civ. What do u think about that?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:45 pm    Post subject:

I recognized the Ordonancas.

I don't know Portuguese, but I know Latin and Google. Latin tells me "this is plural" and Google says "this doesn't mean something that describes a person, but rather some kind of 'decrees' which created that kind of military force". So I'm kinda struggling with that term. It looks good for a ColoMilitia though.

@Hoop: I found only few information on Cernida, not even pics and the descriptions tell me, they're not even trained, but just young picked up people. So they're even hard on limit to be anything useful at all.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:08 pm    Post subject:

I would like to suggest some, but I don't really get the system... Will every (NE) civ have Colonial Militia AND a unique Minuteman??? Or how?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:18 pm    Post subject:

You got it.
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