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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:11 am    Post subject:

Tell me if you manage to make multiple duplicates of the minuteman tech, I haven't been able to do many without them bugging...

As for the actual topic on hand, maybe Serenos for Spanish minutemen?



Couldn't find info about them in other than spanish though. Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:20 am    Post subject:

I'd rather go with Somnetes as an Militia-related thing and Miquelets for Revolution. I don't even think it's necessary to bother with the Levy tech itself. I could live well with a workaround, apart from that I'm changing the Militia concept, so doing a new tech seems likely.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:22 am    Post subject:

What's a somnete? Confused The only reference I've found about it is this very thread. lol
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:27 am    Post subject:

Vrijkorps is a good name, as is Orangist. Exercitiegenootschap though would not be the name of a single unit. Less so in fact, because genootschap means "community". I do like the idea of the Orangist name though, I think it's probably better than Vrijkorps.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:31 pm    Post subject:

What would be the most distinct visual characterist of an Orangist? Is it indeed an orange uniform or am I completely mistaken in my imagination?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:10 pm    Post subject:

It may not be very fitting for Militia, but one thing I can think of is an orange sash running from one shoulder diagonally across the upper body to the hip. If you want to colour the uniform (and given that this is NE, you probably do), I'd go for a dark shade of blue.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:14 pm    Post subject:

No no, I intend to do the Orangist as revolution unit not as Militia. The Militia will be generic. The revo unit doesn't necessarily need to be a Militia, it just shouldn't be a professional soldier from the elite or something.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:13 am    Post subject:

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- #Town Cossack (Militia UU?)

If you're using kozaks, the only option for the PLC would be Registered Kozaks. "Town Cossack" appears to be some some sort of poor choice of name from M&B. Devil

I'd rather suggest a kozak unit for a colo-militia if you decide against a reformed musketeer. Their armed rebellion is one of the most significant events in Polish history. Also, it was a group of people (Poles, and Lithuanians) ruling over another group of people, which is somewhat similar to colonialism/imperialism.
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- #Kosynierzy (plural?) - Melee Inf w. war scythe (probably better as vil melee boost or Church tech)

I believe Kosynierów is the singular name. It would be a pretty good militia UU, better then any sort of kozak.

While there where more rebellions used after the timeline, they were used during the Deluge, and Kościuszko Uprising.
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Żołnierz or Żołnierz Powiatowy would be better names. Żołnierz is the actual Polish word for soldier, and a "Żołnierz Powiatowy" was a soldier hired by a certain Powiat for defense. A Powiat is the second level of local government in Poland, followed by the Voivodeships.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:46 am    Post subject:

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- #Town Cossack (Militia UU?)

If you're using kozaks, the only option for the PLC would be Registered Kozaks. "Town Cossack" appears to be some some sort of poor choice of name from M&B. Devil

Dam'! lol M&B: FS did indeed inspire me here, but I kinda used it as a placeholder. You can be certain I'd have asked you for something in that direction that also comes with a Polish name. Wink

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I'd rather suggest a kozak unit for a colo-militia if you decide against a reformed musketeer. Their armed rebellion is one of the most significant events in Polish history. Also, it was a group of people (Poles, and Lithuanians) ruling over another group of people, which is somewhat similar to colonialism/imperialism.

Well, then town cossacks weren't that far from being right, eh? Devil
I don't know that rebellion, could you provide me some good links please? If you can think of a potential unit, let me know!

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- #Kosynierzy (plural?) - Melee Inf w. war scythe (probably better as vil melee boost or Church tech)

I believe Kosynierów is the singular name. It would be a pretty good militia UU, better then any sort of kozak.

I'd have to see first how the new Militia will be realized generally to be able to tell if an unique melee unit makes sense. Also, I don't know nothing about that unit except its name and its weapon of choice.

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- #Reformed Musketeer (Zolnier, .. )

Żołnierz or Żołnierz Powiatowy would be better names. Żołnierz is the actual Polish word for soldier, and a "Żołnierz Powiatowy" was a soldier hired by a certain Powiat for defense. A Powiat is the second level of local government in Poland, followed by the Voivodeships.

What about drafts and its role/existence during the NE timeline?
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:09 am    Post subject:

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Well, then town cossacks weren't that far from being right, eh? I don't know that rebellion, could you provide me some good links please?!

The Khmelnytsky Uprising. A kozak uprising, which ended Polish domination of Ukraine, and kozaks in the Polish army. It' widely regarded as the end of the Polish Golden Age.

Quick links I pulled of the net:
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Jewish Encyclopedia
Other weird site I found!

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If you can think of a potential unit, let me know

Sich or Zaporozhian Kozaks. They fielded pretty deadly infantry during the mid 17th century.
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I'd have to see first how the new Militia will be realized generally to be able to tell if an unique melee unit makes sense. Also, I don't know nothing about that unit except its name and its weapon of choice.
They where volunteer militia troops wielding a war scythe. Mainly refers to the Kosciuszko Uprising, but similar types of units where used after that in different uprisings.

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What about drafts and its role/existence during the NE timeline?

The only sources I have of their existence is Wiki, and two books. Unfortunately wiki doesn't provide any pictures of them, and I don't have the books at the moment.

I assume they looks like regular Polish Hadjuk/Musketeers. Of course I'm not sure. And I know you like to be sure. I think one of those books does have a picture however, gimme a bit of time, and I should fine some more info.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:28 pm    Post subject:

please make China revolutionable. then give China Chinese revolution units: Taiping Army Soldiers or others Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:50 pm    Post subject:

We're not actively working on the Chinese.

Either way, It's impossible as the Revolution feature is built in the core of the civ code: A civ either uses a set of five Politicians that improve with age and has a Dancing pit, builds wonders and collects import OR Ages up with politicians unique to age and have the option to revolt.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:04 am    Post subject:

Besides, isn't the Taiping Rebellion a little bit too out of timeline?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:32 am    Post subject:

Can i still give suggestions on this page?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:47 am    Post subject:

You can suggest anything anywhere, though your the first to post here in 3-4 years lol
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:47 am    Post subject:

Haha, yes. I'm still interested in any sort of suggestions to everything, because without suggestions I usually end up having to research everything on my own. Smile

The unit list in the first post is surely no longer up-to-date though. Mr. Green
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