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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:35 pm    Post subject:

SAOL wrote:
]Where on Wikipedia did you read that? The NE article was removed a few months ago, and it certainly didn't say anything about that.
I saw it here (in spanish). Translation, "The Napoleonic Era is an unofficial modification of the strategy game for personal computers of Ensemble Studios."

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:57 pm    Post subject:

DanielDude wrote:
SAOL wrote:
]Where on Wikipedia did you read that? The NE article was removed a few months ago, and it certainly didn't say anything about that.
I saw it here (in spanish). Translation, "The Napoleonic Era is an unofficial modification of the strategy game for personal computers of Ensemble Studios."

Ok.

Thank you!
I see. Exactly how you got that to mean that the mod was made by old Ensamble Studios people I don't know, but it doesn't matter. Now you know the truth Wink The mod has German origins.

Nice that the Spanish version still is up. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:52 pm    Post subject:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:59 pm    Post subject:

Tilanus Commodor wrote:

The Spanish Rodelero will be and has been modded in several ways: 1.) Instead of countering Cavalry, they'll counter Hand Infantry now


Just curious, but why counter hand infantry? Confused Aren't rodeleros hand infantry themselves? I feel like they would be more like coyote runners than anything else.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:09 pm    Post subject:

Coyote runners don't counter hand infantry, do they? Confused
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:14 pm    Post subject:

No they don't. I was just thinking that it would make more sense if rodeleros were similar in function to coyote runners, since they are similar in many other respects.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:25 pm    Post subject:

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No they don't. I was just thinking that it would make more sense if rodeleros were similar in function to coyote runners, since they are similar in many other respects.
Oh I see; I must have misunderstood you somehow.

The problem is, I think, that rodeleros are heavy infantry, which is countered by light infantry. It would be strange if rodeleros were to both counter and be countered by the same unit.

With their armament it makes more sense if they counter heavy inf or cav. You don't hunt down light infantry wearing armour, you use cav for that.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:32 pm    Post subject:

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The problem is, I think, that rodeleros are heavy infantry, which is countered by light infantry. It would be strange if rodeleros were to both counter and be countered by the same unit.


Except under TWC definition of light infantry, don't light infantry counter skirmishers and artillery?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:41 pm    Post subject:

No... Light infantry essentially is skirmishers and such. They counter heavy infantry and artillery. Light infantry is primarily countered by cavalry, which primarily is countered by heavy infantry.

In TWC they added some 'abstract infantry/coyote men' class for infantry that is supposed to fulfil the functions of cavalry (eagle knights and coyote runners), as the Aztecs didn't have horses.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:50 pm    Post subject:

I'm not sure about that, but I'll take your word for it.

So is hand infantry a separate category or is it lumped under the heavy and light infantry categories?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:53 pm    Post subject:

Hand infantry is heavy infantry, along with musketeer-type units.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:54 pm    Post subject:

Confused So the rodeleros counter themselves?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:06 am    Post subject:

Unless Tilanus change their class, they would.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 10:47 am    Post subject:

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Light infantry essentially is skirmishers and such
when I look at the tags of skirmishers, cassadores, crossbowmen..etc none of them put light infantry. they put just infantry.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:00 pm    Post subject:

Skirmishers are light infantry. I promise.

I'm not sure about crossbowmen actually, but I think they're heavy.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:13 pm    Post subject:

Skirmisher, crossbowmen (and Grenzers to some degree; etc.) are ranged infantry. They are good against heavy infantry and light cavalry.

Musketeers, pikemen and rodeleros (etc.) are heavy infantry which makes them good against cav. Rods share their speed with light infantry, but have more in common with pikemen.

Coyote runners and Eagle-Running-Knights along with some asian natives and the chinese disciples are light infantry which makes them very similar to cavalry. They are nearly as fast but weaker. Use them against artillery and ranged infantry, except for ERKs which have the same use as light cavalry (dragoons etc.) which means they counter normal cav.

This is actually how they are classified ingame atm (along with other classifications like "siege unit" etc). Reality/history is different. Maybe NE will be more accurate although I think the classifactions are hard-coded.
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