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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 7:25 pm    Post subject:

you know the torp?
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject:

I have been in many torps, and lived in them for many days. So of course.

However, you didn't listen to what I said. Wood is generally slower to gather [Implied: with settlers] than food or coin.

With the torps only on wood, recollection isn't all that terrific. You can recollect gold at a higher rate per second. The issue is that you usually spend more gold than wood, so you can get back to a big wood stock faster.
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 7:53 pm    Post subject:

well, if you need more wood only construct more torp, i only asigned in all my skirmisher 10-11 settelrs for gathering wood
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:08 pm    Post subject:

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recolect wood is easy, the problem is recolect coin or food, because their are slow,
Wood are generally slower to collect than food and coin.


But torps make it easier with their wood trickle.

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With the torps only on wood, recollection isn't all that terrific. You can recollect gold at a higher rate per second. The issue is that you usually spend more gold than wood, so you can get back to a big wood stock faster.


And that can actually be good if you have a market, though you'll alaways lose wood in the process of course.
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:04 pm    Post subject:

SAOL is right. Wood collect slower than food and coin. Normally Food > Coin > Wood > Export. Now, Sweden has some powerful cards collecting wood. Plus timber export, makes it worth.

And yes, with Sweden the way to go is infantry + artillery. Specially with Swedish fusiliers. Dont get me wrong, Drabants are good, like more decent I would say. Lets say you face the Swiss. Using Drabants would be suicide. The same if you face Prussia´s DHH.
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:06 pm    Post subject:

wunzigan wrote:

And yes, with Sweden the way to go is infantry + artillery. Specially with Swedish fusiliers. Dont get me wrong, Drabants are good, like more decent I would say. Lets say you face the Swiss. Using Drabants would be suicide. The same if you face Prussia´s DHH.


i agree, but using torp you recolect more wood
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject:

Indeed, but that is not enough. You need at least 40 of those 50 villies plus the factories on wood. Now that will give you around 95k wood up to min 35, then timber export. Echange rate, 1.75. Make the math.

If you have read the post I made about pros and cons, it says there in the beginning that you have to go for a torp boom. Now like I heard here, that is not enough for this strategy. The trickle is ok, but you need a lot more. Each Swedish fusilier cost 300 Gold, lets say you use about 500+ in a long treaty game, that is 150 K Gold alone. So after the treaty end, put your Villies in Plantations or in Farms/Gold Mines. So you keep a healthy production.

If I am not mistaken the strategy is clear. Its like the French when they go for Fur Trade....all villies for food, and only a few for wood.
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 9:28 pm    Post subject:

with only 5 torps, 10 settelrs that can gather wood and good strategy you can age up to colonial age with only 3000 of wood in only 15 minutes...... very easy Mr. Green
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 10:00 pm    Post subject:

Right, but are we talking about the strategy I posted or in general terms? The strategy was merely for a NR40 where you need tons of gold. And the best way to achieve that after some serious testing is the one I described before.

In Rush mode, obviously all will change. You cant do that in Rush...like the Hatamotos....too risky[/img]
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject:

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And yes, with Sweden the way to go is infantry + artillery. Specially with Swedish fusiliers. Dont get me wrong, Drabants are good, like more decent I would say. Lets say you face the Swiss. Using Drabants would be suicide. The same if you face Prussia´s DHH.


True, which is why I love Sweden so much.

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Right, but are we talking about the strategy I posted or in general terms? The strategy was merely for a NR40 where you need tons of gold. And the best way to achieve that after some serious testing is the one I described before.

In Rush mode, obviously all will change. You cant do that in Rush...like the Hatamotos....too risky


Yep, it all depends on how you play and what is your situation.
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 2:55 pm    Post subject:

Ah, our water rocks. Our school owns a torp. Its large and classical red (Falu red paint) I've been there many times!
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 3:34 pm    Post subject:

Your school has a torp? For what? Confused For trips?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:08 am    Post subject:

Back To Topic! i think that sweden, with a great atack using leather cannon can be unstopable if you defend this artillery of cavalry atacks
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:48 am    Post subject:

Not to mention infantry (I cannot live without it)
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 5:36 pm    Post subject:

SAOL wrote:
Your school has a torp? For what? Confused For trips?


More like a "ur och skur" place. Its our second schoolyard Razz

I never liked the swedish millitary in NE. It was focused on these uber weak but quickly loading leather cannons. I liked their special culverins and their infantry though-
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:22 pm    Post subject:

well, sweden in NE is the unique civilization without many changes
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